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Hey Cait,

I guess you learned an important lesson. Yeah we got booted out cos they were intimidated by our presence. Imagine that 20 + people afraid of 3 adults and 1 13 year old sitting quietly and typing questions they couldn't answer. Jim (kcender) banned, Peter (ulearn2earn) kicked out by admin, Brad & Sheryl banned and then the 13 year old YOU banned for asking WHY.

What's the lesson you learned?? People are afraid of the truth. They aren't able or capable of accepting that their "show" is a sham and we were the perpetrators of disclosing that fact in public. They all saw that their "false prophet" was in a "state" and couldn't deal with US being there so.......... WE WERE BANNNED!!!! :) :) :)

I have one question for you Cait.... WASN'T IT FUN??? I HAD A BLAST!

You shouldn't take any of that personally when you consider the source of all the actions taken against us. He "threw us out of the community" and what's left there now is the SF CEO Beefy and his loved ones who haven't seen the light YET. Rest assured that they will. What goes around comes around. He'll get his just deserts for treating a 13 year old like that.

Beefetta has left the building.

Shalom,

Peter

Caitlinn,
I am very sorry that CMU7 treated like this.

You are not the only person this has happened to at CMU7. They should have been proud to have a great marketer (even at 13) like you on their team.

I am sure they will regret the decision to ban & delete you.

As for messing with your profile, that is pure envy. You were one of the top 2 people leaving comments for others, you also had more page views than most. Your votes (profile ratings) were outstanding. That can cause jealousy.

I had them do the same thing to my profile. I also had people disappear from my downline even though they were still in the matrix. They were moved to benefit someone else. In fact a few people had their down line get moved & never saw where.

You see, the truth always comes out. Only losers hide behind lies.

I know you will be just fine as you do belong to other great communities online. You have also found some great people to help you learn more tips & tricks of marketing.
I am very proud of you & all that you have accomplished.

Keep up the good work!!
Sheryl Loch ~ allmylovecrafts ~ Ex - CMU7 member!!

You can see more post of how CMU7 treated members at these other links ~
Brad West Forum At Adland HERE

Jim Allen's Adland Forum HERE

Peter Fogel's Adland Forum HERE

Hemmmm, I have been watching this topic all over. I do not know the full story about all this. But I see some dear friends being hurt here. Brad and Sheryl put their hearts into CMU7 and Jim and Peter are most respected people in my eyes.. SO,,,, I Guess I will just have to Delete my account with CMU7.
Would someone mail me the true story?? I was away sick for a while and missed most of this. Peace.

Yep! What you say is a real thing going on.

It reminds me of last year, when it was revealed that some "monitors" at DIGG were doing the same thing---eliminating so-called "threats".

Yes, I pumped CMU7 like everyone else..then got this "gut feeling" about some of their actions.
It doesn't take long to realize it is operating for their own little "selected few" cronies.

I'm sure that WE aren't the only ones this happened to. There are others out there, that just don't check their stats and records---they just go in and post, look around and then leave.
If they really analyzed their past and recent activity stats, they would "see" the picture.

Thanks for illuminating this "conspiracy".

Well I am a member of CMU7, what you all go on about it pure rubbish. If you had followed the purpose behind CMU7 you would still be there, instead of trying take over. CMU7 is alive and working well. I run the Mentor Center over there and I can say I have never had a problem with CMU7.

Anthony

Anthony is commenting on something that happened many moths ago. Is he lost or just starting trouble?
Maybe just down right stupid.
Lisa Simpkins

Re: Anthony Hosking,

I fully believe that this was put to bed a long time ago. Why Beef Sloan is stirring things up now is beyond me.

But as I said before and still stand fully behind these words, bring it on. The truth always prevails, And we have pictures.

It is more than obvious that you have nether read or contacted the few people that Steve Sloan has wronged.

As you are probably a true blue Beef fan and that is good. You can enjoy the branding that comes with being associated with the Beef. You have a great new site with three escalators on the front page that to most says come to CMU7 we will take you for a ride!!

There is so much more to say, but I won't, most of the people that Beef had try to attack us never came back to read and comment.

Have a nice day and enjoy your stay
Brad West ~ onomoney

It appears that Anthony may be a bit behind the times. Or in need of attention.

Either way most have moved on and upward.

I know I sure have and this issue was just a step along a path.

One that will never be tread upon again as that part of journey is unneccessary for success.

Sincerely,

Jim Allen III

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/408/RipOff0408444.htm

This post has been added in reference to the above anonymously posted link that contains a post to the Rip Off Report. It has been posted here for a few reasons. Most of all We want to keep this post in our control for a bit longer until we gather together the exact sources in which it will be posted and link them all together.

Re: Brad West’s response to accusations involving CEO, CFO Beef (Steve Sloan) and CMU7.com. Accusations reported as hearsay by Joyce Sanders.

First off yes CMU7 has harmed many people and will continue to do so. We discovered a link posted on Caits blog this morning. On the thread titled "CMU7 Deleted Me” that was started after CEO, CFO Beef (Steve Sloan) stole from us. Mind you Joyce that Sheryl, Caitlinn, and I put everything of ours on the back burner for well over a year for the CMU7 project. Little did I know that there was a field of dead bodies from the prior project of Mr Sloan, TCSnet I think that was the name of it. Sorry if I got that site name wrong. I may be corrected later on the name of the site.


“Brad West”
Here we go I will respond to your words Joyce, You can rest assured that we did not file this report we were fine letting things rest the way they were and letting Beef dig his own hole. But now that we feel personally attacked by you, CMU7 can be rest assured that the link will be spread far and wide. We could have posted on multiple scam sites with news of the wrong doings of Beef, but we never did.

“Joyce Quote”
First off I want to say I know it is best to never argue with an idiot because they will drag you down to their level and beat you every time. However, due to the fact that whoever filed this report apparently just graduated from ' sandbox' and was NOT brave enough to put their real name as a signature I find it my responsibility to correct their Bovine Scatology report.
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“Brad West”
That is precisely why we just let being screwed and mistreated by Beefs lies and moved on, it was just a waste of energy dealing with an idiot. If I filed this report I defiantly would have put my name on it. As far as the validly of the report I can’t say, but I am more than inclined to believe the creator of the report, after our experiences with Beef, and knowing at least a dozen other people that have been kissed by the scam of Beef.

“Joyce Quote”
If whoever filed this report would contact a member of our staff perhaps we can better understand why you have hard feelings toward our company instead of filing an untruth publicly. I think this is the Chicken “Quote”

“Brad West”
This statement is so off the wall, there is no talking to Beef or his sheeple, It’s just like Jim Jones and Jones Town. About your claim of untruth I think not. There will be allot more posted here and allot more truth that will come into light about CEO, CFO Beef (Steve Sloan) now that you have stirred the pot, and pointed fingers, I know the words you speak they only come from Beef himself, and are only spread by his followers. You never see Beef or Sam, his son in law, publicly post anything. Beef is smart enough to refrain from posting and has his followers do it because he then would have to stand behind what he writes, and he can’t.


“Joyce Quote”
Way of complaining when the complaint is not legitimate. I think this was done because the filer knows that Rip Off Report does not remove complaints no matter how 'small minded' they are.
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“Brad West”
Small minded? Just look at the past year and think about how many people Beef has gone thorough at CMU7 for the same reasons. Believe his lies, Ooh small minded one, all of us can’t be wrong.

“Joyce Quote”
Secondly, Community Marketing University

is not a scam. We have had struggles after having a hacker attack and attacks from previous members of Admin. The person who filed the report certainly sounds like on of the fired members of admin. Who went to work for another company and was caught with the hands in the cookie jar at that company. This report seems like 'sour grapes' to me.
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"Brad West"
CMU7 is not a scam, true. CEO, CFO, Beef (Steve Sloan) is the scam. TCSnet had paying members but Beef couldn’t get Kathy Hamelton to bring in enough members. So instead of closing the doors and admitting his failure he faked a hack and said he couldn’t get in to the site and closed it down. But when we were building CMU7 and needed something from the TCSnet site there was no problem getting in, we even mass mailed the old TCSnet members list from there.

Personally I had no desire to find someone to hack his site. I can only be lead to believe that he faked another hack so he had a good excuse to change the site again. Now that most of the people are gone that know enough to watch out for him, and there is no one to check what he is doing and what the real numbers are. He is good for another round of scamming.

As far as hands in the cookie jar, obviously you are too chicken to point fingers specifically at whom you are talking about. There was Jim Allen III and Peter Fogel that went to AdLand Pro, Lisa and Teddy Simpkins that went to Freeman research with Bobby Dennis, and we went to BizPreneur, all the people after that I am not sure about. Any of these people could be who you are talking about, but I can guarantee that non of us had access to any money accounts, so the cookie jar theory is out for us. None of the people listed have actually taken the time to initiate harm to CMU7 either, and would be more than complete fools to be involved or associated with the Beef (Steve Sloan’s) scam in anyway

I don’t know but this cookie jar thing has been going around for a while and instead of addressing it before I will address it now. CEO, CFO Beef (Steve Sloan) is the only one that has ever received money from CMU7 through the payment system, he is the CFO and handles all money transactions, see a thief can’t trust anyone. CEO, CFO Beef (Steve Sloan) is the only one with the cookie jar, but made up stories to distract attention from himself pointing fingers at others.

Sorry I’m wrong about Beef holding the accounts. Beef told us that his wife holds the account because CEO, CFO Beef (Steve Sloan) is on disability and can’t make money, I believe the same goes for his hosting service. He had commented many times that they had multiple PayPal accounts in his wife’s name. So Beef has total control of everything and no one else, and probably always will.

“Joyce Quote”
CMU7 is NOT a 7x4 matrix it is a 4x7 matrix who pays active members. We do NOT pay members who sit on their backsides and do nothing. We do not believe in 'internet welfare'. In our matrix you have to promote and be active in the community AND build an active downline. This is true of any REAL matrix. We also offer Profit Sharing to our members. We have loads of ebook in our library for our members to use to buy and resell. We have a full line of free marketing tools available to our members at little or no cost. It depends on your membership status. We have three membership levels: free, elite and VIP.
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“Brad West”
You are Ooh so correct again, I of all people know that CMU7 had or has a 4x7 Matrix, I was against is for the beginning Beef wanted a 7x7 matrix to start with. A large matrix has been proven not to work unless you have a huge list. Even then most of the people on the bottom levels get the shaft and only the people on the top make any money.

So the beginning of the falling out was when Beef had 9 people on his front line in a 4x7 matrix. So we randomly placed people from his line under others in the matrix. That made him mad that he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. After that people were missing in the matrix, paid members were found under his family members. I believe that Lisa Simpkins was missing near 100 members. We will wait for others to verify that when they post. All I know is by that point Sheryl and I no longer had access to the Matrix to check and see what Beef and Sam were doing. It’s a good thing that we took a bunch of screen shots of the movement in the matrix before hand. We also know some one else that also has some screen shots.

“Joyce Quote”
It is too bad that because of someone’s owe personal lack of knowledge and because their inability to promote they can file these reports. But CMU7 has contended with hackers and insider attacks this past year. We KNOW who these members were and they will not be accepted back into CMU7 as members of admin. EVER.
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“Brad West"
Here you go again, who would want to promote a scam? How many people has Beef brought in? Ooh ya he brought his family in for free, to suck up as much of the money as they could. That is where all the missing members were showing up under the Beef family tree. We stopped thinking about our losses and moved on, who would go back and be involved with the scammer except idiots?

“Joyce Quote”
It is also too bad that the 'sandbox graduate' who filed this report has our matrix wrong, they do not give their real name, and they apparently do not know that British Columbia is NOT in The United Kingdom!! They also have the address of the owner Steve (Beef) Sloan wrong. So I ask those reading this report to evaluate the quality of this person's knowledge. Would you believe someone of this caliber? I think not. Please, feel free to visit our site and make your own decisions.
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“Brad West”
We have the post on Cait’s blog and absolutely know right where the person that felt inclined to tell others of this scandalous CEO, CFO Beef (Steve Sloan) and his CMU7 scam. It’s not the site it is the person behind it and the people that follow him full knowing what he is doing.

After over a years work, Beef shuts down Sheryl’s personal site and wouldn’t let her have it for two weeks, until we were going to file with Ican. She was the one that paid for the Domain Name and built the site.

“Joyce Quote”
We are open to all peoples. We encourage family values and open visits. I wish I knew what two year old filed this report. Obviously they are not very familiar with our company.
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“Brad West”
I am sure glad to say that I don’t treat my family with the values of CMU7, heck I don’t treat my enemies like that. As far as filing a report like a two year old is it possible that was the only way you all would understand it. After all you are a Beef (Steve Sloan) follower, and likewise fully knowing the truth should be held accountable for (with) him for continuing this scam.

You see there are two things that never fail Love, and the Truth, we actually have both on our side. I will always put my name and post only the truth. If you are calling us out, after we let this lie for over a year, not that we have time, but we will honor your wishes and let the truth be known.

Karma it a super powerful thing!
Brad West ~ onomoney


Editor-in-Chief
Joyce (roadcat) Sanders
roadcat@cmu7.com
Owner: Steve(beef) Sloan
beef@cmu7.com
Team Leader
peaches@cmu7.com

For further information you may visit us anytime at http://www.cmu7.com
p.s. you may Skype us for further information at:
Joyce Sanders aka.--roadcat1
Sue Dietrich aka. sweetpeaches2
Owner: Steve (beef) Sloan aka. beefcmu7

We are Community Marketing University You Open Door to build your business.

My address was not put up as I did not want another call from that idiot Beef. Just look at his retarded retort.

Mr Brad, you are extremely right, karma is a beautiful thing, I was there when you were and after. As for this joyce, talk about blind leading blind. wish they would wake up and tally their bank balances and downlines. Just look at whos the star, Sue the big mouth idiot.

I will remain unknown Mr Brad, he has done enough harm. Not letting him get me any time soon.

I have to apologize for trusting this man and not believing you when you were trying to tell us what was happening. I fell for it hook line and sinker.

He's a user from the word go and now he's lost some of the best marketers in the business and put those "wannabees" in his so called VIP to get them to think they're being given something. They have no clue. They'll find out soon enough though just like me, kiwigal and Anthony found out. He's grasping at straws now and it's just a matter of time before his little plan goes poof.
(of course we all know when it does he'll just say it was a hacker)